tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-966329187699506484.post9121154197438308740..comments2024-03-02T17:28:24.061-05:00Comments on Shorebirder: Hybrid hummingbird, Ash Canyon, AZ - 3 Aug 2010Nick Bonomohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07036401219361026741noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-966329187699506484.post-79167461391604398652010-09-09T16:34:29.341-04:002010-09-09T16:34:29.341-04:00Thanks a lot Dawn, Sheri's input has been inva...Thanks a lot Dawn, Sheri's input has been invaluable. I was hoping she would be able to join the discussion.Nick Bonomohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07036401219361026741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-966329187699506484.post-54107817132429028482010-09-09T15:30:05.181-04:002010-09-09T15:30:05.181-04:00I am enjoying this sharing of knowledge and am hap...I am enjoying this sharing of knowledge and am happy that a consensus was reached! Great detective birding work.<br /> Glad I was able to hook you two up.Dawn Finehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08320576787003821586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-966329187699506484.post-6059354962430616742010-09-09T04:38:09.882-04:002010-09-09T04:38:09.882-04:00Sheri, not at all, I know how difficult it can be ...Sheri, not at all, I know how difficult it can be to interpret these things. Thanks again for the update!Nick Bonomohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07036401219361026741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-966329187699506484.post-39033582334302300972010-09-09T00:51:34.678-04:002010-09-09T00:51:34.678-04:00This is going to sound like we're seriously co...This is going to sound like we're seriously confused here in SE AZ, but in reviewing three sets of photos from two photographers, we've reached a consensus that differences interpreted as indicating two different birds are probably attributable to molt, angle, lighting, etc. The page at azfo.org has been updated but no new photos have been added:<br /><br />http://www.azfo.org/gallery/2010/html3/Hybrid_Hummingbird_AshCanyon_Melton_12_July_2010.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-966329187699506484.post-78466292541127806332010-09-08T03:50:44.753-04:002010-09-08T03:50:44.753-04:00Sheri, that's absolutely fascinating. I really...Sheri, that's absolutely fascinating. I really appreciate the updates.<br /><br />If you can, could you forward the photos to me at nbonomo(AT)gmail(dot)com for my records, or point me to where they may be published online?Nick Bonomohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07036401219361026741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-966329187699506484.post-56587808669772608482010-09-08T01:53:44.409-04:002010-09-08T01:53:44.409-04:00Update: I just received photos from Charles Melton...<strong>Update:</strong> I just received photos from Charles Melton of a second Lucifer hybrid that is probably the one you photographed (he also described it as singing a Costa's song), so it turns out that Mary Jo has <em>two</em> previously undocumented Lucifer x <em>Calypte</em> hybrids.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-966329187699506484.post-43395012498234829812010-09-06T12:03:38.771-04:002010-09-06T12:03:38.771-04:00Though a couple of other experienced observers her...Though a couple of other experienced observers here in AZ originally suggested Costa's x Lucifer, I came down on the side of Anna's x Lucifer based on tail length and gorget shape. Guess the Lucifer side exerted a little more influence in those areas than we might have expected, keeping the tail long and gorget short. I'll pass on your observation and ask that the page be updated to reflect the new information.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-966329187699506484.post-5735534846394386102010-09-06T11:17:42.165-04:002010-09-06T11:17:42.165-04:00Thanks for your thoughts Sheri, much appreciated. ...Thanks for your thoughts Sheri, much appreciated. Yes, the high, thin drawn out rising and falling wheee-oooo is what I was referring to. Given that, I would be very surprised if the bird was anything other than Costa's x Lucifer. Thusfar I haven't received any comments suggesting anything different.<br /><br />Thanks Luke, enjoy hawkwatching season. Hope to join you in Greenwich someday this fall. Should meet up for a beer at least.Nick Bonomohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07036401219361026741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-966329187699506484.post-55863044147264154252010-09-05T20:55:06.510-04:002010-09-05T20:55:06.510-04:00Nick,
Trust you to see and hear something weird!...Nick, <br /><br />Trust you to see and hear something weird! Cool stuff.<br /><br />LukeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-966329187699506484.post-21383690513131492782010-09-05T16:42:23.790-04:002010-09-05T16:42:23.790-04:00Very interesting observations. This is likely the ...Very interesting observations. This is likely the same bird that I saw at the end of March and that was later photographed by Charles Melton (among others):<br /><br />http://www.azfo.org/gallery/2010/html3/Hybrid_Hummingbird_AshCanyon_Melton_12_July_2010.html<br /><br />What makes your report unusual is that it's the first report I've heard of this bird singing. You wrote that the song was typical of Costa's, by which I assume you mean a drawn-out <i>wheee-oooo</i>. This would shift the evidence strongly toward Costa's as one parent, which is indeed a previously unknown hybrid combination (as is Anna's x Lucifer).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com